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  1. JustBiyuti
    Dying at the absurdity of having a white man do the preface for a classic of decolonialist literature.

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    Wed, Aug 29 2012 13:13:30

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  2. JustBiyuti
    "Decolonization, which sets out to change the order of the world, is, obviously, a program of complete disorder." -Fanon #t

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    Wed, Aug 29 2012 13:17:13

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  3. JustBiyuti
    "the cause is the consequence; you are rich because you are white, you are white because you are rich." -- Fanon 40 #t

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    Wed, Aug 29 2012 13:25:18

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  4. JustBiyuti
    Wow. Franz Fanon is saying everything I've been needing to hear. (even as I realize there are likely problems laying in wait).

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    Wed, Aug 29 2012 13:27:33

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  5. JustBiyuti
    @neetainari Right? Like. I'm six pages in and my mind is blown.

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    Wed, Aug 29 2012 14:05:13

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  6. JustBiyuti
    @neetainari I just started wretched of the earth... I might finish in 20 years. lol.

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    Wed, Aug 29 2012 14:07:44

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  7. JustBiyuti
    "when the settler seeks to describe the native fully in exact terms he constantly refers to the bestiary" #Fanon #t

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:37:15

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  8. JustBiyuti
    "those hordes of vital statistics, those historical masses, those faces bereft of all humanity" #Fanon #t

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:38:31

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  9. JustBiyuti
    "As far as the native is concerned, morality is very concrete; it is to silence the settler's defiance" #Fanon #t

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:44:52

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  10. metalmujer
    "There is a difference between knowing the path, walking the path, and just bitching about the path."

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:46:07

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  11. metalmujer
    @JustBiyuti did he really just position settlers as sctapy insurgents and indigenous people as rigid hegemony?

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:49:45

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  12. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer that isn't what I'm getting from it. Context is that decolonization is necessarily violent and not conciliatory.

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:52:30

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  13. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer the quote continues "to break his flouting violence-in a word, to put [the settler] out of the picture"

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    binaohan
    Thu, Aug 30 2012 04:53:49

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  14. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer I would have included the whole quote from the beginning, if not for space.

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    binaohan
    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:02:15

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  15. JustBiyuti
    "the native can see clearly...if decolonization has come to pass or not for his minimum demands are simply that the last shall be the first"#t

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    binaohan
    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:03:14

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  16. metalmujer
    @JustBiyuti K. Overall, do you like what he's saying?

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:03:19

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  17. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer So far... yes. Reserving real judgement until I finish. So far, the underlaying philosphy seems flexible enough to centre us.

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:07:33

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  18. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer Like, the writing is clearly man-centred, but if your philosophy states it must put the last, first, then trans fem/women must +

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    binaohan
    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:09:04

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  19. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer + necessarily be centred b/c of how targeted and violent colonization has been for us. (then again, this is me reading/updating)

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:10:13

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  20. metalmujer
    @JustBiyuti makes sense. I don't trust the Cis nor academia and for good cause tho.

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:12:04

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  21. metalmujer
    @JustBiyuti you have to be seen as human at some level to be counted in that partial ordering.

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:13:36

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  22. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer Oh. For sure. He was also a psychiatrist in the early 20th century. I've all kinds of reservations about that.

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    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:15:16

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  23. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer *nods* This is actually one of the things I'm liking best about him: his philosophy hinges on the recognition of humanity.

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    binaohan
    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:16:48

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  24. JustBiyuti
    @metalmujer He may not have necessarily seen us that way...but I tend to agree that real decolonization *must* see us as human. Or it fails.

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    binaohan
    Thu, Aug 30 2012 05:18:00

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